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		<title>By: When Linchpinning Takes You Off a Cliff</title>
		<link>http://wageslaverebel.com/stop-enabling/comment-page-1/#comment-2766</link>
		<dc:creator>When Linchpinning Takes You Off a Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] wrote a column about this phenomenon for Wage Slave Rebel back in [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: The Blogger About Town &#171; Fail Often</title>
		<link>http://wageslaverebel.com/stop-enabling/comment-page-1/#comment-1607</link>
		<dc:creator>The Blogger About Town &#171; Fail Often</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 04:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Blogger About&#160;Town  Jump to Comments  Wage Slave Rebel and NYC 3.o published some of my guest [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://wageslaverebel.com/stop-enabling/comment-page-1/#comment-1548</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 05:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Heh, keep stirring stuff up JC. Challenging post as usual. Awareness is key as usual!
.-= Robert&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://itarsenal.com/watch-free-support/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Watch This and Get Free Support!&lt;/a&gt; =-.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, keep stirring stuff up JC. Challenging post as usual. Awareness is key as usual!
.-= Robert&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://itarsenal.com/watch-free-support/" rel="nofollow">Watch This and Get Free Support!</a> =-.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jay Horowitz - OurTakeOnFreedom</title>
		<link>http://wageslaverebel.com/stop-enabling/comment-page-1/#comment-1511</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Horowitz - OurTakeOnFreedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cool - thanks for the discussion, guys.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-Jay
.-= Jay Horowitz - OurTakeOnFreedom&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://ourtakeonfreedom.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/haitians-an-iraq-war-vet-and-an-upcoming-trip-to-cabrera/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Haitians, an Iraq War Vet and an Upcoming Trip to Cabrera&lt;/a&gt; =-.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool &#8211; thanks for the discussion, guys.</p>

<p>-Jay
.-= Jay Horowitz &#8211; OurTakeOnFreedom&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://ourtakeonfreedom.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/haitians-an-iraq-war-vet-and-an-upcoming-trip-to-cabrera/" rel="nofollow">Haitians, an Iraq War Vet and an Upcoming Trip to Cabrera</a> =-.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: JC Hewitt</title>
		<link>http://wageslaverebel.com/stop-enabling/comment-page-1/#comment-1509</link>
		<dc:creator>JC Hewitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I mean &quot;exploitation&quot; more in the emotional sense of the word. They&#039;re willing to work for far less than what it&#039;s worth in order to gain a measure of emotional security.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Of course, these relationships are purely consensual. There&#039;s nothing immoral in hiring a worker on a wage or taking a job.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I agree that the wording is imprecise, especially with the political history involved in mislabeling employment as exploitation. I actually edited a version of this post to remove that sentence and replace it with something clearer, but I screwed up and sent an earlier draft to J.D. without first checking.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t you think it&#039;s a little silly for people to be paid for attendance rather than compensated based on production, as most contractors are? Hourly and annual wages create such perverse incentives in the majority of cases.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Even with commissions and bonuses, time-based wages reward a reversion to mediocrity and generate collectivism in the workplace. It punishes efficiency and innovation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m an arch-capitalist, so it certainly wasn&#039;t my intention to posit that cash-for-labor is improper.
.-= JC Hewitt&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://failoften.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/change-yourself-first/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Change Yourself First&lt;/a&gt; =-.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean &#8220;exploitation&#8221; more in the emotional sense of the word. They&#8217;re willing to work for far less than what it&#8217;s worth in order to gain a measure of emotional security.</p>

<p>Of course, these relationships are purely consensual. There&#8217;s nothing immoral in hiring a worker on a wage or taking a job.</p>

<p>I agree that the wording is imprecise, especially with the political history involved in mislabeling employment as exploitation. I actually edited a version of this post to remove that sentence and replace it with something clearer, but I screwed up and sent an earlier draft to J.D. without first checking.</p>

<p>Don&#8217;t you think it&#8217;s a little silly for people to be paid for attendance rather than compensated based on production, as most contractors are? Hourly and annual wages create such perverse incentives in the majority of cases.</p>

<p>Even with commissions and bonuses, time-based wages reward a reversion to mediocrity and generate collectivism in the workplace. It punishes efficiency and innovation.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m an arch-capitalist, so it certainly wasn&#8217;t my intention to posit that cash-for-labor is improper.
.-= JC Hewitt&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://failoften.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/change-yourself-first/" rel="nofollow">Change Yourself First</a> =-.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: J. D. Bentley</title>
		<link>http://wageslaverebel.com/stop-enabling/comment-page-1/#comment-1507</link>
		<dc:creator>J. D. Bentley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I certainly see what you are saying. There could be enough people who actually like being employees without feeling exploited that the system would work anyway. But I&#039;m not one of those people so it&#039;s really hard to relate. For me it was exploitation and I left. Did the system collapse when I left? No.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wouldn&#039;t consider the wage system exploitation if kids were presented with other options in school. For the most part, we are all pushed through a kind of conveyor-belt education that puts an unfair amount of attention on getting a job. By the time you graduate high school or college, it&#039;s pretty much expected that you&#039;ll work under someone else for a particular price, and like you said a lot of those people accept whatever job comes along and get trapped.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s true that you can&#039;t look out for every person. They need to learn and do for themselves. But I think it&#039;s a great disservice to leave entrepreneurship out of education.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Do I think it should be replaced? Not if it&#039;s what people actually want to do. Do I think it&#039;s the ideal? Absolutely not.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly see what you are saying. There could be enough people who actually like being employees without feeling exploited that the system would work anyway. But I&#8217;m not one of those people so it&#8217;s really hard to relate. For me it was exploitation and I left. Did the system collapse when I left? No.</p>

<p>I wouldn&#8217;t consider the wage system exploitation if kids were presented with other options in school. For the most part, we are all pushed through a kind of conveyor-belt education that puts an unfair amount of attention on getting a job. By the time you graduate high school or college, it&#8217;s pretty much expected that you&#8217;ll work under someone else for a particular price, and like you said a lot of those people accept whatever job comes along and get trapped.</p>

<p>It&#8217;s true that you can&#8217;t look out for every person. They need to learn and do for themselves. But I think it&#8217;s a great disservice to leave entrepreneurship out of education.</p>

<p>Do I think it should be replaced? Not if it&#8217;s what people actually want to do. Do I think it&#8217;s the ideal? Absolutely not.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jay Horowitz - OurTakeOnFreedom</title>
		<link>http://wageslaverebel.com/stop-enabling/comment-page-1/#comment-1506</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Horowitz - OurTakeOnFreedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@JD - Thanks for the reply!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wouldn&#039;t call it exploitation, but I&#039;ll certainly agree that many people just accept whatever job they come across and become trapped in it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What I disagree with is the statement that the wage system &quot;&lt;em&gt;functions&lt;/em&gt; because so many people are willing to be exploited.&quot; The wage system is fantastic and would function just fine under any circumstances.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Remember, the wage system and what this blog calls &#039;wage servitude&#039; are very different things.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cheers,
Jay
.-= Jay Horowitz - OurTakeOnFreedom&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://ourtakeonfreedom.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/haitians-an-iraq-war-vet-and-an-upcoming-trip-to-cabrera/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Haitians, an Iraq War Vet and an Upcoming Trip to Cabrera&lt;/a&gt; =-.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JD &#8211; Thanks for the reply!</p>

<p>I wouldn&#8217;t call it exploitation, but I&#8217;ll certainly agree that many people just accept whatever job they come across and become trapped in it.</p>

<p>What I disagree with is the statement that the wage system &#8220;<em>functions</em> because so many people are willing to be exploited.&#8221; The wage system is fantastic and would function just fine under any circumstances.</p>

<p>Remember, the wage system and what this blog calls &#8216;wage servitude&#8217; are very different things.</p>

<p>Cheers,
Jay
.-= Jay Horowitz &#8211; OurTakeOnFreedom&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://ourtakeonfreedom.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/haitians-an-iraq-war-vet-and-an-upcoming-trip-to-cabrera/" rel="nofollow">Haitians, an Iraq War Vet and an Upcoming Trip to Cabrera</a> =-.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: J. D. Bentley</title>
		<link>http://wageslaverebel.com/stop-enabling/comment-page-1/#comment-1505</link>
		<dc:creator>J. D. Bentley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t mean to put words in JC&#039;s mouth. He can answer for himself if I&#039;m wrong, but I didn&#039;t think he was suggesting we replace the wage system at all. Rather, he was saying that those in the wage system need to realize that they are actually (for lack of a better term) &quot;little entrepreneurs.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That is to say, even though they are employees they are selling their skill and their time and should be aware that they have the right to be treated with respect and to be fairly compensated. Many people just accept whatever job they come by and get a &quot;slave&quot; state of mind.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You can argue that the wage system isn&#039;t full of people willing to be exploited, but I wouldn&#039;t buy it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mean to put words in JC&#8217;s mouth. He can answer for himself if I&#8217;m wrong, but I didn&#8217;t think he was suggesting we replace the wage system at all. Rather, he was saying that those in the wage system need to realize that they are actually (for lack of a better term) &#8220;little entrepreneurs.&#8221;</p>

<p>That is to say, even though they are employees they are selling their skill and their time and should be aware that they have the right to be treated with respect and to be fairly compensated. Many people just accept whatever job they come by and get a &#8220;slave&#8221; state of mind.</p>

<p>You can argue that the wage system isn&#8217;t full of people willing to be exploited, but I wouldn&#8217;t buy it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jay Horowitz - OurTakeOnFreedom</title>
		<link>http://wageslaverebel.com/stop-enabling/comment-page-1/#comment-1501</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Horowitz - OurTakeOnFreedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ok, ok. Bad management is bad management.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But, &quot;The wage system functions because so many people are willing to be exploited.&quot; - what?!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The &#039;wage system&#039; is just a way of trading labor for a something that is a medium of exchange, unit of account, and a store of value. This removes a lot of inefficiencies in a barter system.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What exactly do you propose replacing it with?
.-= Jay Horowitz - OurTakeOnFreedom&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://ourtakeonfreedom.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/haitians-an-iraq-war-vet-and-an-upcoming-trip-to-cabrera/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Haitians, an Iraq War Vet and an Upcoming Trip to Cabrera&lt;/a&gt; =-.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, ok. Bad management is bad management.</p>

<p>But, &#8220;The wage system functions because so many people are willing to be exploited.&#8221; &#8211; what?!</p>

<p>The &#8216;wage system&#8217; is just a way of trading labor for a something that is a medium of exchange, unit of account, and a store of value. This removes a lot of inefficiencies in a barter system.</p>

<p>What exactly do you propose replacing it with?
.-= Jay Horowitz &#8211; OurTakeOnFreedom&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://ourtakeonfreedom.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/haitians-an-iraq-war-vet-and-an-upcoming-trip-to-cabrera/" rel="nofollow">Haitians, an Iraq War Vet and an Upcoming Trip to Cabrera</a> =-.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: JC Hewitt</title>
		<link>http://wageslaverebel.com/stop-enabling/comment-page-1/#comment-1490</link>
		<dc:creator>JC Hewitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the opportunity, J.D.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This article from the Harvard Business Review discusses some of the pratfalls of the narcissistic leadership style with reference to Apple and other major companies:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.maccoby.com/Articles/NarLeaders.shtml&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think that &quot;narcissist&quot; is an out-dated Freudian label, although understanding some of the psychological mechanisms commonly associated with it can be worthwhile.
.-= JC Hewitt&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://failoften.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/change-yourself-first/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Change Yourself First&lt;/a&gt; =-.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the opportunity, J.D.</p>

<p>This article from the Harvard Business Review discusses some of the pratfalls of the narcissistic leadership style with reference to Apple and other major companies:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.maccoby.com/Articles/NarLeaders.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.maccoby.com/Articles/NarLeaders.shtml</a></p>

<p>I think that &#8220;narcissist&#8221; is an out-dated Freudian label, although understanding some of the psychological mechanisms commonly associated with it can be worthwhile.
.-= JC Hewitt&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://failoften.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/change-yourself-first/" rel="nofollow">Change Yourself First</a> =-.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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