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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://wageslaverebel.com/the-unfortunate-pervasiveness-of-object-over-imagination/comment-page-1/#comment-844</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;JD. I know this post isn&#039;t fresh, but I loved your last reply to the comment above. It&#039;s what I was really looking for in this post.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I agree with you, but I&#039;m so torn. I believe creatively promoting your product, or any product you really believe in, is appropriate and I would encourage it. That being said...there is no way to draw a black and white line on what would qualify as malicious mental hijacking like mentioned above and an earnest creative attempt to persuade someone that what you are offering is awesome except having a solid moral compass. Pure intentions by the seller, and promoting awareness (which I think you exemplify in your experiences in this post) are the keys to noble buying and selling. I&#039;m encouraged because most lifestyle designers I&#039;ve come across seem to have that knowledge.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Are your intentions to earn as many dollars as you can, and sell some stuff, or to create value and meaning, then make some dollars? Thanks as usual for making me think. The site redesign is bangin too.
.-= Robert&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheLifeDesignProject/~3/W0mGfOWpRfE/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Workflow of Work &#124; Momentum Building&lt;/a&gt; =-.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD. I know this post isn&#8217;t fresh, but I loved your last reply to the comment above. It&#8217;s what I was really looking for in this post.</p>

<p>I agree with you, but I&#8217;m so torn. I believe creatively promoting your product, or any product you really believe in, is appropriate and I would encourage it. That being said&#8230;there is no way to draw a black and white line on what would qualify as malicious mental hijacking like mentioned above and an earnest creative attempt to persuade someone that what you are offering is awesome except having a solid moral compass. Pure intentions by the seller, and promoting awareness (which I think you exemplify in your experiences in this post) are the keys to noble buying and selling. I&#8217;m encouraged because most lifestyle designers I&#8217;ve come across seem to have that knowledge.</p>

<p>Are your intentions to earn as many dollars as you can, and sell some stuff, or to create value and meaning, then make some dollars? Thanks as usual for making me think. The site redesign is bangin too.
.-= Robert&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheLifeDesignProject/~3/W0mGfOWpRfE/" rel="nofollow">The Workflow of Work | Momentum Building</a> =-.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Walter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The sad truth is that marketers knew the fallible nature of man, and they operate on this weakness. Awareness of thyself is a learning process that must evolve if we are to live a life of sense. Charlatans will never be without gullible people. :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad truth is that marketers knew the fallible nature of man, and they operate on this weakness. Awareness of thyself is a learning process that must evolve if we are to live a life of sense. Charlatans will never be without gullible people. <img src='http://wageslaverebel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: NomadicNeil</title>
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		<dc:creator>NomadicNeil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;But isn&#039;t it funny how you often hear from people that have &#039;made it&#039; that how they went about it was all wrong and that it&#039;s much better to do it in &#039;X Y Z&#039; manner which is much more safe / sensible.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s like Bill Gates telling people not to drop out of college, yet that&#039;s what he did. 
Spielberg telling people to not hassle studio executives, yet that&#039;s what he did. 
Richard Branson telling teenagers not to set up their own businesses and not to take risks, yet that&#039;s what he did.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ok maybe there is a bias in that we only hear about the successful &#039;risk takers&#039; and not the ones that lost it all. Still you have to take some risks in life in order to get ahead.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But isn&#039;t it funny how you often hear from people that have &#039;made it&#039; that how they went about it was all wrong and that it&#039;s much better to do it in &#039;X Y Z&#039; manner which is much more safe / sensible.</p>

<p>It&#039;s like Bill Gates telling people not to drop out of college, yet that&#039;s what he did. 
Spielberg telling people to not hassle studio executives, yet that&#039;s what he did. 
Richard Branson telling teenagers not to set up their own businesses and not to take risks, yet that&#039;s what he did.</p>

<p>Ok maybe there is a bias in that we only hear about the successful &#039;risk takers&#039; and not the ones that lost it all. Still you have to take some risks in life in order to get ahead.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: NomadicNeil</title>
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		<dc:creator>NomadicNeil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You could have... but you didn&#039;t.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just want to point out that you are not alone in this kind of &#039;fake it till you make it&#039; approach.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The most memorable case I can think of is Steven Spielberg who found an unused office in a hollywood studio and turned up every day with a briefcase (in which he kept his lunch).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Reminds me of:  &#039;Be, Do, Have&#039;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could have&#8230; but you didn&#039;t.</p>

<p>Just want to point out that you are not alone in this kind of &#039;fake it till you make it&#039; approach.</p>

<p>The most memorable case I can think of is Steven Spielberg who found an unused office in a hollywood studio and turned up every day with a briefcase (in which he kept his lunch).</p>

<p>Reminds me of:  &#039;Be, Do, Have&#039;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jdbentley</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdbentley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My poverty has been a very effective combatant in the war against marketers. :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My poverty has been a very effective combatant in the war against marketers. <img src='http://wageslaverebel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jdbentley</title>
		<link>http://wageslaverebel.com/the-unfortunate-pervasiveness-of-object-over-imagination/comment-page-1/#comment-666</link>
		<dc:creator>jdbentley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If marketing is free of superlatives and exaggeration and amounts to an honest description of a product, that&#039;s cool with me. If it&#039;s about making something sound like it&#039;s the greatest thing on earth so as to influence someone to purchase it, to me that&#039;s dishonest and unacceptable. I think the former is less likely to encourage mindless consumption.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My problem isn&#039;t with you or anyone selling a book. I hope to sell a few books myself some day soon. My biggest problem is when marketers use less-than-honest techniques. For example, when Toyota launched the Yaris, they paid MadTV to do a sketch parodying it. There wasn&#039;t a disclaimer mentioning that the parody was actually a paid advertisement. Most marketers encourage parody because any exposure, even &quot;negative&quot; exposure, really just promotes the brand. This subliminal highjacking of our mental landscapes is unacceptable.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If marketing is free of superlatives and exaggeration and amounts to an honest description of a product, that&#039;s cool with me. If it&#039;s about making something sound like it&#039;s the greatest thing on earth so as to influence someone to purchase it, to me that&#039;s dishonest and unacceptable. I think the former is less likely to encourage mindless consumption.</p>

<p>My problem isn&#039;t with you or anyone selling a book. I hope to sell a few books myself some day soon. My biggest problem is when marketers use less-than-honest techniques. For example, when Toyota launched the Yaris, they paid MadTV to do a sketch parodying it. There wasn&#039;t a disclaimer mentioning that the parody was actually a paid advertisement. Most marketers encourage parody because any exposure, even &quot;negative&quot; exposure, really just promotes the brand. This subliminal highjacking of our mental landscapes is unacceptable.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jdbentley</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdbentley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I consider this to be the opposite of what I did and this is what I&#039;d recommend people to do. I should have let my skills dictate and provide the necessary upgrades. Having already gotten experience with design, you had a better idea of what you needed and what would benefit you. You also had the money to pay for it. You evolved and I bullshitted. Instead of designing, I decided to look like a designer. Consumption didn&#039;t do much to progress my business. In many ways it hindered it because I had to deal with software I didn&#039;t really know and an operating system I didn&#039;t know. And with the Moleskine, I still haven&#039;t figured out why I need it. I have two that are mostly blank. Can&#039;t find a way to work it into my process.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Still, though, I think rewarding yourself by buying objects (tangible or intangible) isn&#039;t a particularly good habit to pick up since it reinforces this concept of &quot;more is better&quot;. Buying an experience is much more acceptable. The costs of a day trip are secondary to the experience. I think the less we buy, though, the better off we are, the more content we are.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By the way, if there&#039;s something I might buy in the near future, it&#039;d be InDesign. I&#039;m really getting into typography and the printing process. I&#039;ll have to download the trial and just play around with it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider this to be the opposite of what I did and this is what I&#039;d recommend people to do. I should have let my skills dictate and provide the necessary upgrades. Having already gotten experience with design, you had a better idea of what you needed and what would benefit you. You also had the money to pay for it. You evolved and I bullshitted. Instead of designing, I decided to look like a designer. Consumption didn&#039;t do much to progress my business. In many ways it hindered it because I had to deal with software I didn&#039;t really know and an operating system I didn&#039;t know. And with the Moleskine, I still haven&#039;t figured out why I need it. I have two that are mostly blank. Can&#039;t find a way to work it into my process.</p>

<p>Still, though, I think rewarding yourself by buying objects (tangible or intangible) isn&#039;t a particularly good habit to pick up since it reinforces this concept of &quot;more is better&quot;. Buying an experience is much more acceptable. The costs of a day trip are secondary to the experience. I think the less we buy, though, the better off we are, the more content we are.</p>

<p>By the way, if there&#039;s something I might buy in the near future, it&#039;d be InDesign. I&#039;m really getting into typography and the printing process. I&#039;ll have to download the trial and just play around with it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jdbentley</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdbentley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m a freelance designer now, but I don&#039;t credit that to having a Moleskine or a Mac. It came from experience, from messing things up, from reading and doing and asking questions. I could have just as easily become a designer with a composition book and Linux on a Compaq.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m a freelance designer now, but I don&#039;t credit that to having a Moleskine or a Mac. It came from experience, from messing things up, from reading and doing and asking questions. I could have just as easily become a designer with a composition book and Linux on a Compaq.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jdbentley</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdbentley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not sure if it would be possible to connect people with what they actually need. It seems like if they did that, it would cease to be marketing. It would just be... I don&#039;t know... downright useful and probably not profitable.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m also happy to learn that I&#039;m not the only one who had an imaginary motorcycle!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m not sure if it would be possible to connect people with what they actually need. It seems like if they did that, it would cease to be marketing. It would just be&#8230; I don&#039;t know&#8230; downright useful and probably not profitable.</p>

<p>I&#039;m also happy to learn that I&#039;m not the only one who had an imaginary motorcycle!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jdbentley</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdbentley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Exactly, Rasheed. I&#039;ve always wondered why it wasn&#039;t illegal to advertise prescription drugs in the United States.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, Rasheed. I&#039;ve always wondered why it wasn&#039;t illegal to advertise prescription drugs in the United States.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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